FRESH TAKE ON Deep Squatting Vs. Quarter Squatting
Seasons. The beginning of every season, what? We do this?
Isaiah:Yeah. Yeah. Volume four
John:of I think it's a good it's always a good topic, and I I think it needs revisited. You know? There's newer research that comes out. Our opinions change.
Isaiah:And a wise man once said, we need to be reminded more than we needed to be taught.
John:Was that Alex or Mosey?
Isaiah:Yeah. Yeah. Papa. Papa from Mosey.
John:Papa. Dada. Alex, if you're watching this, we call you dad. I don't think you are, but if you are. Alright.
John:Anyways, let's get into it. What's up, guys? I'm John Evans. This is Isaiah Rivera, and we coach athletes to jump higher. So we are gonna we're gonna talk about that today, but we're specifically gonna discuss squatting.
John:We're going to discuss squat depth, which is something as you guys were listening to we talk about a lot. So, Isaiah, I'm gonna just turn this over to you. What is your lens on deep squatting? Do you need a deep squat?
Isaiah:You know, I've been deep squatting again, like barbell deep back squatting for the last month and a half, I think. Oh, wait. No. It's been a month around there, three weeks, a month. Every time I bring it back, I'm just like, woah.
Isaiah:Like, like in a good way? Yeah. Like, it's like, especially after the session, like the jump I had yesterday, like, I'm just like, damn. And it happens every time. Like, the other time it happened was before I tested 50.5.
Isaiah:I had like taken it out for a while, brought it back, and then, I mean, this time, I, like, I do think, you know, when we always say a storm is brewing.
John:Yeah.
Isaiah:I feel a, I feel a storm brewing. Think, I
John:think it's just the perfect balance of like, you increased your tissue quality over the last like six months and we just haven't quite actualized it yet. Yeah. And then it's like, all right, now you're healthy enough to kind of display what you've worked on the last year. Whereas like, we didn't necessarily do a great job of that at dunk camp.
Isaiah:Yeah. Yeah. So I do I do like it. I think it is rare for an athlete to be able to do it though. I will say that.
Isaiah:In most regard, what do you mean? Mobility wise. Oh, yeah. Range of motion.
John:I think it's interesting too because I think a lot of people assume that that's, like, normal. Like, it's, like, off. You know, the the normal common thing that everyone should be able to do is deep squats. Like, actually, no. That that's actually quite difficult.
Isaiah:I mean, I think it's because they see Olympic weightlifters and stuff like that doing it.
John:CrossFit?
Isaiah:Yeah. CrossFit. CrossFit, bro.
John:That's definitely what it is.
Isaiah:So you get a lot of guys that try to force depth and just ruin their ruin their bodies.
John:Their spines.
Isaiah:Yeah. My my view on on, like, it being bad for your spine has been changing a little bit, though. I think the spine can adapt. I don't I don't think it's you should train it at extremes, I think if your mobility is good enough to where there's only, like, a little bit of movement at the spine, like, a tiny bit. Because there there's movement at the spine, like, no matter what range of motion you go.
Isaiah:Like, like, it doesn't hold its perfect, like, s curve.
John:Unless you're me because I don't have any posterior tilt or spine flexion. I literally don't have the capacity to do it. Yeah. Every time I try to do block starts and I, like, physically could not do it because I wasn't able to flex my spine.
Isaiah:Yeah.
John:It's horrible. And I don't have great mobility which makes
Isaiah:I'm it naturally, like, I'm super anteriorly, tilted. Like, my pelvis is. Like, I'm like
John:Yeah. So as soon as you start to.
Isaiah:So even like a front, for example, a front squat.
John:Your pelvis, it's bad.
Isaiah:Yeah. Like a front squat, I've never had pain, but I'm technically, posteriorly tilting. It just doesn't look bad because it's just like it's tilting to neutral if that makes sense. That's what it looks like.
John:Yeah. I mean, any wiggle wiggle room there is just generally not good. You know, I was watching a I was it was funny. I was talking to Fabian, and he was like, oh, have you ever seen this video? And he found this video of Patrick Sojberg.
John:I don't know how you pronounce that. And Carlos Thunberg doing squats and training for high jump, and they jumped, like, two thirty, which is, like, seven seven. And in the video, he was deep squatting, but then they were doing quarter squats, but he, like, warmed up with deep squatting. I was like, that is actually really interesting because Patrick Schoenberg was, like, two forty two high jumper. He's one of the best ever.
John:And it's one of the only videos you can see of him actually training. Like, there's not a lot of videos out there of him. And he actually had an interview in 1999, said he was gonna go work with NBA players to jump higher, which is interesting. Patrick and I have a lot talk. Do you have a video?
John:Yeah. You wanna yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Isaiah:I wanna see this.
John:Yeah. Let me let me, let me let me function like Jamie does. Let's go present. Share screen. And here we go.
John:You can see my screen now? Yeah. Just this window. Right? Mhmm.
John:Alright. Let's go to I jokingly added Tomorrowland so I could pretend like I was rave guy. I sent you it, and you never respond. You never respond when I text you from my work phone. It's always so sad.
Isaiah:I didn't even know you texted me from your work phone.
John:I do it. So, yeah, I do it pretty often. Not super often. Just send you videos when I'm, like, on my laptop. Where is it?
Isaiah:Yeah. It
John:should be in the history. You guys are gonna see what I watched. I was playing videos of my dog. Like, I wanna hear howl last night, so that's what you're gonna see here. Maybe it's called oh, right here.
John:That should be it right there. Oh, there it is. You ready for this? Yeah. It's an hour long, but I'll I'll just, like, skip to the good part.
John:So do you wanna just go to the squad? And they basically just warm up and do sprints here. There's like no audio. And then they get into let me see what they do here.
Isaiah:Like, oh, this is a random basketball hoop.
John:No. So apparently, this is, like, in Spain on a resort. It's no longer there. But it's really funny because, like, halfway through the video when they're high jumping, you'll see, like, a bunch of women just, like, standing there watching them. Like, these dudes were superstars in the nineties.
John:Literally. They had mullets. They had the highest shorts I've ever seen. Like, at one point, I'm pretty sure that, Carlos Randhart's ball sack falls out of his shorts. Like, it's, like, really bad.
John:Like, you're gonna see it. Like, look how high these shorts are, bro. Also, look how giant they are. They also do depth jumps and try to dunk.
Isaiah:Really?
John:Mhmm. But I'll skip to the squats. So let's see here.
Isaiah:That should be really interesting.
John:I know. You should watch this video.
Isaiah:This is them warming up right now?
John:They end up, like, doing sprints, I think, at the end. Like, here, they start, like, doing some runs.
Isaiah:That would be so fun. Just be outside shirtless, just training, running around. I said that. Bro. Yesterday, what we've
John:done, dude. This is literally us.
Isaiah:No. When I was, doing the sprints yesterday and, like, the drops and all that and I was in the sun, I was like, this feels so good just to, like, run and jump outside. Mhmm. Feels so nice.
John:Yeah. Also, I'm dunking tomorrow. If you wanna come up this direction in UCF, that would be great. I need to know who's at.
Isaiah:Curious.
John:Alright. You ready?
Isaiah:Squatting. Let's do a seat of shit.
John:Come on now. So this is them warming up. Look how deep he squats, though.
Isaiah:Oh my god.
John:I know. Right? Dude, don't let Ben Patrick see this. Literally. He's gonna he's gonna, like, take this out of context.
John:He literally
Isaiah:That is
John:He He did this as a warm up set, and Ben Patrick would be like, the greatest high jumpers in the world were great deep squatters.
Isaiah:Bro, his heels are elevated too. Right?
John:Not. I don't know if they are actually. It's kinda hard to tell, but he has really good ankle mobility, and it's really his hip mobility, actually.
Isaiah:Yeah. Insane. Those hip
John:mobility is ridiculous. That's literally his warm up set. He just does that with one thirty five, and then he goes to quarter squats and half squats or, like like, Carlos Thranhardt literally doesn't do that. Then both their backs are fucked up, like, really bad, which Both of them? Yeah.
John:So, look, this is, like, his warm up set here.
Isaiah:I can see why their back's fucked up.
John:Yeah. You see how much he's flexing in his spine?
Isaiah:Yeah. You go one thirty five, no warm up, and then start loading up that game.
John:Carlos three and art does front squats to, like, a let me see. Like, a parallel kinda. Yeah. Like, this is as deep as he goes. That's it.
Isaiah:That is so interesting.
John:It's like fucking ball sack is hanging out. That's hilarious. I'm gonna dress like that to the gym. Hopefully, I'll jump higher. Do you look at their legs, though?
John:Their legs are crazy. Like, yeah, having stuff.
Isaiah:It looks like freaking animal, like, cheetah legs.
John:Yeah. That's what people say. That's what I say about you. You have horse legs. Look at this, though.
John:Dude, Yeah. That's like a third squat. It is rhythm third squats. Look. Look.
John:This is, like, the most he does. Ready? And they, like, high jump this session. That's it. That's, like, it right there.
John:He uses the box to, like, see how low
Isaiah:They high jump after this?
John:I don't know if it's it's not the same day, I don't think. Like, it's, a different day. It's hard to tell. Like, there's no context. This is like a girl just watching.
John:That's hilarious. Like, this dude reading the fucking newspaper. This is like
Isaiah:I didn't even realize that.
John:It's so funny. They're just, like, on a resort. I mean, this is really iffy. Sorry. Go ahead.
Isaiah:Shoot. I want a resort with freaking squat rack.
John:In Spain? Bro, there's one. Look at this. Look at this. Get ready.
John:But listen to the plate. The plate actually jumped quite a bit when he gets one. Ready? Like, he that bar is flexing a lot. So then we're just gonna jump to, like, their top.
John:This is actually fucking hilarious. I was watching this, and I Fabian sent it to me, and this fucking frame comes up. And I was like I was like, bro, I could have done without seeing Carlos Reynard's ball sack. He's fucking taint the whole time. Anyways so then they put on, like, a 160.
John:What Fabian said. He's like, it's probably a one sixty or something. He's like, don't think they want heavier than that. But look. Look how fucking heavy they go.
Isaiah:Damn.
John:So this is then they really start to come. You're kinda moving it fast, though. He's popping that off the bar. And that bar is bending, so that's a good that's a good amount of weight. Their backs are Like, the whole time, like, he's doing this type of thing to try to help with that.
John:You can tell.
Isaiah:Yeah. I I can imagine, dude, like, think about, they're doing that and then think about how much like your spine move when you high jump and stuff.
John:Yeah. Look at this though, dude. He's really, he put a in a way on your back like that. I'm like, We don't we don't need to watch Carlos Granard do that again. 300.
John:I don't know what he said right here. I wanna see what he said. And you better. After 300.
Isaiah:Three hundred?
John:Bro, if that was three hundred no way that was three hundred kilos.
Isaiah:You said three hundred, right?
John:It had to be three hundred pounds. Right? Yeah. Had to be three hundred pounds. I think they take weight off.
John:And then he does this. Like a a fucking let's see what we got here.
Isaiah:He's jumping. Yeah.
John:We got a very short ground contact time activity. This is actually interesting because Rolf likes a lot of exercises like this. Like, super fast, very short time to keep
Isaiah:a walk. Look at this.
John:And then I I literally said this. Was like, bro, if I don't put this on Isaiah, I was like, this would be the game thing we've ever done. Like, people would literally just.
Isaiah:Alright. Here we go. The van. Oh, he's getting more range of motion there.
John:Yeah. He gets more range of motion. Maybe the first one was just like a warm up, but it's still pretty fast. Like, I mean, that's kinda deep. So he's doing like I don't know what those are.
John:Like, lunge Like,
Isaiah:like Order lunge jumps? They're like
John:stiffness hops, but lunge jumps. They're like a tweener exercise. It's kinda weird. Then we get then we get some more of this.
Isaiah:Yeah. So this bag is definitely hurting.
John:Yeah. Big time. So then they go out here, and they do some depth jump. This is really funny because they draw the dribble. Look at this.
John:Look how uncoordinated they look. It's so bad. And they can barely dunk. Look at this. Off the box.
John:I was talking to Fabian, and he was like, yeah. It doesn't look like they got much out of those duck jumps. And I was like, yeah. Maybe because the ball is fucking impeding the entire, like, purpose of it.
Isaiah:That was so bad.
John:That's what it looks like the whole time, by the way. But then they go into high jump, and then the dude literally, like, rips us a cigarette and jumps two meters. It's actually pretty funny. Pretty iconic video. Where is it at?
John:No. Look. They're literally fucking smoking sticks on What the
Isaiah:the hell?
John:Look. Look. They sit down, and they're just, like, smoking cigarettes. Look. Look.
John:This guy's just smoking a cigarette. He comes over here. He's still smoking a cig. Then the athlete sits down. Look.
John:They're just smoking cigarette. Is with a cigarette
Isaiah:in his mouth. Probably world record.
John:Bro, what kind of scum? They're like the Dennis Rodman.
Isaiah:That is crazy.
John:They're like the Dennis Rodman of Dunkin'.
Isaiah:Bro, I love videos like that. Like, the the video
John:of trading ones. Yeah.
Isaiah:The Russian one, you know which one I'm talking about that Joel would post?
John:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where they're, like, bounding up the hill and stuff like that.
Isaiah:That that one's fire. I remember when I used to find videos like that when I was young. I I felt like I was finding gold.
John:I mean, kind of are.
Isaiah:And the other one, the one that's really famous is I think he's a thrower.
John:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Ben Moxness posted him the other day. Forget his name.
Isaiah:And he does, like, all the piles and stuff. He's like big dude. That one everybody posts. It used to be rare, I feel like. No.
Isaiah:No. It's like over posted.
John:Yeah. It's overdone. Yeah. We get it. He did some fucking complexing.
John:Whatever.
Isaiah:And he and he and he was powerful.
John:Yeah. He's powerful. What do you? But I think, you know, after after watching that and kinda getting some context for it, and then on on the stuff with with what I was saying about Rolf and Randy Huntington, they don't do anything below 90 degrees. Nothing.
John:Literally, everything is 90 degrees or higher, and they work with sprinters. So it's like, okay. That makes, you know, some sense. And I talked to Cody Bidlow about it, and Cody was like because he's done their stuff for a while. And he basically was like, well, I feel like you leave some gains on the table by not strengthening, you know, your your hips, your your adductors, your glute med, and your, you know, abductors and stuff like that in those deep ranges.
John:So sometimes you need to touch on that stuff, which I agree. And Rolf actually mentioned that on a call. He's like, yeah. You you gotta add some accessory work for that because otherwise, you'll completely miss addressing those muscles. And their big thing is, like, compensatory movement patterns.
John:And in track, it's, like, so interesting because if you talk to a lot of people, they've anecdotally experienced that. And then research will also indicate that your movement pattern changes and jumps when you're fatigued. So it does have a lot of credence to it. And I've anecdotally also experienced that, but it's such a obscure thing to measure. And that's actually why I made a YouTube video on monitoring, HRV.
John:I actually went back and looked at my high jump journal, training journal from 2017, 2016, and I was exclusively doing deep squats or half squat deep squats during that time. That's when I jumped my best, and I was, like, not jumping at all except the week of. That was the only hydro session I had. So I think for track specifically and, like, one foot jumpers, I think that both can work. I think at the end of the day, you need to get stronger.
John:I think that you my my opinion on it hasn't really changed too much. It's being molded at the moment because I'm experiencing or at least being exposed to more training that is exclusively in, like, 90 degrees and higher right now with Rolf and kind of what he's doing with guys. And I think maybe that's a little bit of a bias towards my train of thought right now. But in terms of my own training, I do a lot of full squatting as a one foot jumper. Right?
John:Or I try to. I try to squat as deep as I can, at pretty high loads and try to, you know, control the weight as best possible. And you've obviously seen me kind of progress down my squat depth. So, you know, it's I don't know if my opinion on it has changed. I think at the end of the day, the training laws still apply.
John:You gotta go from deeper ranges to quarter quarter squats and stuff like that, you know, or or even higher. I think for two foot jumping, what I mean, what's your lens? What do you think?
Isaiah:I think it's the same thing. I think you gotta hit both. Quarters specifically, I haven't seen help a lot.
John:For you, specifically you're saying or in general?
Isaiah:Yeah, yeah. For me, for me specifically, I haven't seen a lot of a lot of benefit from doing quarters. But I've I've jumped high as hell. I've jumped my highest ever after doing a lot of deep squatting and then I've jumped my highest ever after doing a lot of half squatting. Half squatting can be very tough on your body, though.
John:Like I agree.
Isaiah:Because it's you have to go way heavier, so it's way higher loading on your spine. I think
John:This is actually another thing I wanted to address was that exact point. Yeah. PFP back said that.
Isaiah:Yeah. Like, PFP, lot lot tougher, with that. Deep squats, you can get an insane workout with way lower loads.
John:Well, like, axially, you mean?
Isaiah:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It has its downsides as well. I think specifically, like, it's just harder to have good technique on a deep squat.
John:And spinal flexion is a risk.
Isaiah:Mhmm. So but I definitely think if the athlete has the mobility to do so, he should squat as deep as possible at certain times of the year and do more specific ranges of motion at other times of the year.
John:Yeah. And I keep I try to keep deep squatting in at least once a week all year for guys.
Isaiah:I think it's really good for feel good lifting too.
John:Yeah. I do too. I think for health is really important to just be able to. And it's not necessarily like whatever it's whatever your deep squat is, you know, like safely because I mean I can't. I can't do what like you.
Isaiah:I also would not do it like the two scenarios where I think you can run into problems too. Well, the two other scenarios is if you have meniscus issues, shouldn't force depth. And then if you have, like, hip impingement and that type of thing, you also shouldn't force depth.
John:Yeah. It's literally contraindicated. I I'm I can almost I don't even have to guarantee, but just for the sake of doing this because I have the option to to do this, I think it would be would be worthwhile. Let's just go to Google Scholar. Oh, shit.
John:It's alright.
Isaiah:What does contraindicative mean by the way?
John:It would basically, it's not good for it. That's the short way to say it, but see if I have access to some research here. Do we even have or risk factors might be good. Clinical importance. Surgical outcomes.
Isaiah:This is actually, this topic is getting me excited to train.
John:This topic?
Isaiah:Yeah, well, specifically that video. I watched that I like, Meniscus. Was get after it.
John:I'll have to I I don't wanna spend too much time doing this. I'll just I'll just click this real quick. That's chondral defects, but how about this one? Successfully repaired. Let's go to the bottom of the research.
John:This is going to take a while, but maybe flexion is another keyword you could look up. So you're right here, guys. So both knees in full extension. Rehabilitation. Yeah.
John:So they don't really go past that. And I'm fairly certain that that is first postoperative, some zero to 90. This is just getting range of motion back. It's kind of interesting. Position and joint healed, failed, not healed.
John:I'd have to look at all this, but I mean, in short, it's gonna be more intense if you go deeper ranges of motion on that. So I'll look at that a little bit later. But anyways, yeah, you don't wanna do that. You don't wanna deep squat if you have a meniscus injury. It tends to be one of the drivers, not drivers, one of the, it's like a cause, but I don't, there's like a different technical term for it, but it can be the reason why you actually toward your meniscus is if you squat too deep and specifically if you rotate while you're too deep because the meniscus is between the femur and the tibia.
John:And when you squat really deep and then you twist, it just grinds those, which obviously is not good. So I think, yeah, that's a really good scenario. ACLs, it can be there's some indication that it's good. There's some indication it's bad deep knee flexion because that's a very intense position on the ACL. And especially if you're like unloaded open chain, because that's kind of one of the things it's doing is stopping the anterior translation of the tibia.
John:And, you know, it's it just can be provocative. And, you know, some people don't don't love that. That's also one of the reasons why you need to do it is because it's like you gotta build up your load tolerance, graded exposure, and and things like that, which you guys can look up the research for. I'm not gonna pull up all the research articles. I probably should do that ahead of time maybe next time, but sometimes it it's more fun to learn with you guys.
John:And yeah. So in terms of performance, though, specifically with the back, this is maybe something where because I've done safety. I've done a quarter squat where I've hip loaded half the weight and then loaded actually on my spine. I've done six fifty. And, you know, like, you look at your Virgoschansky, what he says, damn back, what he says.
John:They're like, it's a spine exercise. If you go that heavy and I'm like, okay, just use a belt squat. Like.
Isaiah:Yeah. Just
John:belt squatted that much and then, a lot of people are like more open to that or leg press just like use a leg press. Even that sometimes can be pretty intense, though. So I think I wanna start experimenting more with that. I think the big kind of deterrent for me with that is that from experience doing unilateral work, I've really kind of loaded my condomalacia really intensely, like really, really intensely. Was like, I'll just do one leg.
John:And then at like three fifteen, or whatever, you've got the free leg that say weighs 50 pounds, three fifteen. And you're, you've got a little bit of a lever system now happening because your center of mass is slightly outside of your base of sport. It's like you you just add layers of complexity and load that can cause issues down the road for you, specifically at that joint with your with your patella tendon. So or your patella bone. And, yeah, I just think it's a little bit risky to do, but that is maybe the, the other caveat with it.
John:And maybe one of the reasons why I don't love it is you can get relatively high muscular loading, relatively high tenderness loading without doing that and yeah, that's kind of my my two cents on it. What are your what are your thoughts on that? You agree?
Isaiah:Wait, wait, with, you know,
John:like using belt squats and then maybe the downside of it. Yeah. Back, you might have other things arise.
Isaiah:It's it's that that saying, injuries don't go away. They just move around.
John:They just move around.
Isaiah:Yeah. I I think with anything, there there's a downside to any option that that you choose. That like, a downside might just be you can't load it as much. Like, for example, for me, front squat versus back squat. Front squat doesn't load the backup as much, but I just can't go as heavy.
John:Do you like this more or less?
Isaiah:This one's pretty good too.
John:Yeah. You like this? I like it. I think it was better.
Isaiah:But, yeah, there there's a downside to everything, and there's always an alternative to something. Like, if something doesn't feel good on the day, you can always switch the exercise to something. It's like it's like answer the question. Is it gonna make me feel better or worse by the next training day? And can I load this up in the way that I'm supposed to for whatever the training goal is?
John:Yeah. Yeah. I do agree with that. But, yeah, I think in general, we we kinda came to the same conclusion, but I'm still a little bit on the fence right now on which one I wanna do more of. Like I said, certain times of the year, I think that, you know, I I want to be, deep squatting and wanna be quarter squatting.
John:But with kind of the stuff that I've learned from Rolf and Randy, they're, like, pretty much never deep squat. Like, there's no point. If anything, you're gonna decrease your acceleration in dices, which is not good. You wanna improve those at all cost at those specific ranges of motion. Because when you have big ranges of motion, your time to peak velocity just skyrockets.
John:So even though your wattage is high sometimes because you have so much time to generate velocity or sorry. Your peak velocity is so high and wattages sometimes are high, you know, because you have more time to generate that velocity, you might end up losing acceleration indices, which are very important for your nervous system because it's basically how fast are you generating that force. Even though peak velocity will tell you that, it's just like it just tells you the peak. You know, average velocity might even be a better indicator because it's gonna tell you how you know, if you were fast the whole time or if you were, you know, being a slug at the beginning and then just accelerated really hard from, like, a half squat up or quarter squat up because that could give you really high peak velocity. But, yeah, those are kind of the maybe the other considerations for me.
John:I do think that jumping itself is gonna train that quality and that you can train the tissues through deeper ranges of motion in, like, a more general way that's probably gonna benefit you in the long run and maybe won't cause as many issues. Whereas, like, quarter squatting and stuff like that, you might not get as much of a tissue load. But neurally, I do think that there's something to be said for putting a metric shit ton of weight and trying to move fast on your back or on your on your hips if you're in the case of, like, a belt squat or something like that. Yeah. I I do it's just hard.
John:Like, the thought of that, I'm just like, shit. This is gonna suck. Like Mhmm. And, I mean, you've experienced that with house squats, I feel like. Right?
Isaiah:Yeah. Where you are considering your safety?
John:Yeah. You're kinda like, wow. This is, like, very
Isaiah:Terror is actually terror.
John:Yeah. There's, like, fear involved, and I think that's good. I think a little bit of fear for for adaptation and intensity is good. So, yeah, that's why that's where I'm at with things. I feel like it's a good place to stop.
John:We're around thirty minutes here but thank you guys for watching. If you guys are interested in coaching by Isaiah and myself, you guys have opinions about this, leave comments below. Oh, if you're interested in coaching, to teachmestrength.com. Obviously, we say that every time and make sure you like the video, share it, whatever else. We'll put it on some of our platforms on Instagram and stuff like that and you know, hopefully, we'll we'll have some guests on here soon that there's one I have in mind.
John:Hopefully, Patrick Pyle, Shelby McEwen's coach will be on soon. He, has had a lot of success with high jumpers, and I would love to get his lines. I'm sure that he would have a really interesting lines on quarter squats. You know, especially because he does them quite a bit with his guys and girls. But, yeah, that's the video guys.
John:We will see you guys tomorrow. Bye.
